17th Anniversary of the Blessed Mother's first weeping tears of blood ? Oct 19, 2003

Praise Jesus and Mary!  I pray that the Blessed Mother's words: Together with my Son Jesus I bless you all gathered here in my name, will be realized to all of you around the world who love Our Lady of Naju.  I wish the combined Love of the Hearts of Jesus and Mary be with you.

On this 17^th anniversary of the Blessed Mother's first weeping tears of blood in Naju, about 1,000 pilgrims including many from abroad came to the Blessed Mother's mountain and, then, participated in the overnight prayer meeting in the Chapel.  They did not come looking for more miracles and signs but came because of their love for the Lord and the Blessed Mother, after realizing the truth from God through the Blessed Mother who has been showing us the shortcut to eternal life.

The sky was clear without any clouds.  There were many pilgrims on the Blessed Mother's mountain from early morning.  The atmosphere on the mountain was fresh and holy, as many pilgrims were quietly praying and some were drinking the water from the Blessed Mother's spring.

At 11 a.m., Mass began near the statue of the risen Lord at the 15^th Station on the Way of the Cross.  The Mass was concelebrated by five priests:  Fr. Francis Su from Malaysia, Fr. Louis Bosmans from Canada, Fr. John from Indonesia, Fr. Yanus from Poland, and Fr. Clemens from Hong Kong.  The Korean pilgrims thanked the Lord and the Blessed Mother for sending these foreign priests so that they could attend Mass on this mountain commemorating this important anniversary.  People prayed for their personal needs as well as for the official recognition of Naju as soon as possible.

In the middle of the Mass, fragrant oil with milky color came down upon the altar.  The pilgrims were also greatly consoled by the strong fragrance of roses coming from the direction of the altar during Mass.

I could see that the pilgrims who came to the Blessed Mother's mountain and her Chapel in Naju were forming a chain of burning love for the Lord and the Blessed Mother and also were becoming a reason for greater hope for the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Mother.  An intense fragrance of roses covered the whole mountain as a sign of the Blessed Mother's welcoming her children.  The pilgrims deeply inhaled this fragrance as if they were trying to replace all the dirty odors in their souls and hearts with the holy and pure fragrance from the Blessed Mother.

At 12:30 p.m., Tom from the United States and other pilgrims from abroad did the Stations of the Cross.  Afterwards, it was the lunch time.  Many of the pilgrims were sharing food with each other. 

At 3 p.m., pilgrims began the Stations of the Cross in Korean.  They meditated on the Blessed Mother's message on August 29, 1989:  In order to avoid the approaching calamities, the children who have been called must climb Mt. Calvary with a deep, silent love—without sighs or lamentations, even if they are ruthlessly despised and are insulted under the heavy burden of pains.  Thus, they are being crucified together with my Son Jesus for the conversion of sinners.  The pilgrims promised to themselves that they, who are supposed to know the Lord and the Blessed Mother, will become little sacrificial offerings and climb Calvary again and again carrying the cross given to them, following the Lord and the Blessed Mother Who are suffering extreme pains in their Hearts for the salvation of the human race.  Especially when they arrived at the 12^th Station where the Lord had died, many pilgrims cried loudly, praying for the grace of repentance and promising to live a new life.

In the evening, the pilgrims came to the Chapel to attend the overnight prayer meeting.  There was not enough room in the Chapel for all the pilgrims, but the front area was reserved for the foreign pilgrims.  The prayer meeting was led by Peter Kim from the City of Taegu.  The atmosphere in the chapel was quite animated and was filled with holy joy, love, and peace as the pilgrims were singing a hymn of the Blessed Mother together.  After the five priests from abroad were briefly introduced, several prayers from the Catholic prayer book were offered, followed by 15 decades of the rosary.

Then, Fr. Francis Su from Malaysia gave a sermon.  He said, The Blessed Mother loves all her children and pleads them to repent their sins.?nbsp; He also said that he always carried a photograph of the Blessed Mother of Naju shedding tears of blood in one of his pockets so that he could take it out and look at it whenever he faced a temptation.  He asked the pilgrims to always remember the Blessed Mother's tears of blood and not to sin any more.

After Fr. Su's sermon, there was an announcement.  It was about a book titled: Miracles.  It was just published in Korean and is being distributed through bookstores all over Korea, available to the whole population in South Korea.  It will become available in English later.  This book outlines the messages and miracles in Naju and discusses the current question of the Korean church hierarchy opposing Naju as well as the following debates and activities to explain and reverse the mistakes and errors that prevail in the current atmosphere in Korea.  The author consecrated the book to the Blessed Mother.  He was a reporter with a major newspaper company in Korea.

During a short break, many pilgrims formed a line to smell the fragrance from the spot in the front of the Chapel where the Eucharist had come down and on August 27, 1987 while Fr. Raymond Spies and several volunteer helpers were praying the rosary.  This fragrance has continued ever since, for more than six years, and is a sign of the Lord's and the Blessed Mother's continuous presence especially in the Chapel.

The second part of the prayer meeting began with more Marian hymns.  After the singing, the pilgrims offered up a prayer consecrating themselves to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  Then, Fr. Louis Bosmans from Canada gave a brief talk.  He said that this was his 14^th visit to Naju.  He first came to Naju fourteen years ago (October 14, 1989) when he was in Korea to attend the International Eucharist Congress in Seoul.  During that visit to Naju, he witnessed Julia suffering the pains of the Crucifixion and of the Korean martyrs?martyrdom.  He also saw copious amounts of tears of blood flowing down from the Blessed Mother's eyes on her statue.

While the pilgrims were joyfully singing the hymns following the ladies who were dancing in the front, I thought that they were like children.  I remembered Our Lord's Words in St. Luke's Gospel (10:21): "I give you praise, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, for although you have hidden these things from the wise and the learned you have revealed them to the childlike.  Yes, Father, such has been your gracious will."

After singing, the pilgrims watched a video of Julia's mystical suffering of pains.  In the section showing Julia's suffering the pains of abortion, the cruel scenes of a little baby being killed in the mother's womb were shown.  Many cried and received many graces.

After Julia had visited a Catholic priest for the first time in the early 1980s and soon afterwards had been miraculously healed of her cancer and accompanying illnesses, she experienced a profound conversion and heard the Lord speaking to her three times while she was praying: The gate of Heaven is open.?nbsp; Likewise, regardless of how sinful we may be, if we approach the Lord repenting our sins and asking for His forgiveness, the Lord and the Blessed Mother will not ask questions about our past but instead bestow abundant graces upon us.  Therefore, all the pilgrims who have experienced this hour of mercy during the overnight prayer meeting in Naju realize that the grace that we must ask for most ardently is the grace of repentance and that all other blessings follow afterwards.  That is the reason for their coming to the Blessed Mother's house every month.  During this hour of mercy, abundant graces were received by all the pilgrims thanks to the sacrifices of suffering pains by Julia.

After the hour of mercy, several pilgrims spoke about their experiences.  The full testimonies will be available on the Naju internet site.  The following is a brief summary.

Catherine Ahn from Pyungtaek (a city south of Seoul) ran into trouble because of a loan guarantee she had made for her sister-in-law.  After knowing the Blessed Mother of Naju, she was able to forgive her sister-in-law.  Her health had deteriorated, but she did not have money to buy the necessary (Oriental herbal) medicine.  So, she has been praying to the Blessed Mother for health and has repeatedly been smelling the odor of ginseng from the water from the Blessed Mother's spring in Naju.  She is convinced that the Blessed Mother will cure her.
 
Lucia Lee from the Youngsan-po Parish (close to Naju) had been suffering from a malfunctioning heart valve for five years, but was healed during an overnight prayer meeting in Naju.  Another long-term illness of hers, an infection in her sinus, also disappeared while she was making pilgrimages to Naju. 
 
Tom Watkins from Prairie village, Kansas, in the United States, has brought large quantities of the water from the Blessed Mother's spring in Naju and has given it to many people together with the Blessed Mother's messages.  His wife, a Korean, has helped him in doing this.  So far many people have reported miraculous healings.  The following are two recent cases.

There are two young women who were told by their doctors that it would be impossible for them to become pregnant and that if they ever did it would be a miracle.  These women did not give up and continued to drink the water from Naju and rub their belly with it, praying.  Tom recently was told by both women that they became pregnant.  (While Tom was in Naju, one of the women came to his store in the US and showed her 5 month old baby to his wife.)

      During her first visit to Naju in 1995, Elizabeth from Hong Kong was looking at the photograph of the Blessed Mother's weeping tears of blood in the Chapel and began wondering why she was crying.  Then, suddenly, she saw a bright light radiating from the Blessed Mother's statue and heard the Blessed Mother speaking to her, Do not put your soul into mah-jong(a gambling in China) but tell everyone around you to pray fervently.?nbsp; She bought a replica statue of the Blessed Mother and says that, ever since, the statue has been exuding the fragrance of roses. 

Please don’t forget the next overnight prayer meeting on November 1 (First Saturday).  The prayer meeting in Naju is being organized by pilgrims themselves, but is actually being led by the Lord and the Blessed Mother.  That is why many participants experience amazing graces here and find the truth and eternal life.  I hope many of you will be able to come and experience the immeasurably large and wide Love of the Lord and the Blessed Mother.

Romulo Tae-Ho Lee
Seoul, Korea
October 2003

Update on Naju ?September 17, 2003

We are back from the trip to Korea from September 1 to 11, which was for both work and pilgrimage.  We were so happy to see the Blessed Mother's statue again.  She had some fragrant oil flowing down from her head.  On the Blessed Mother's mountain, we washed ourselves with the water from the spring and many times smelled the fragrance of roses.  We joined other pilgrims who were doing the Stations of the Cross barefoot.  On September 6, a first Saturday, the Chapel and the front yard were packed with pilgrims who came for the overnight prayer meeting despite the warm and humid weather.  Scientists from abroad interviewed Julia and several witnesses who had experienced spiritual and physical healings through the graces from the Blessed Mother.  These witnesses brought their doctors?statements, X-ray photos, and ultrasonic scans.  Their testimonies were videotaped.

Despite the large and growing number of people around the world who are sincerely accepting the messages and signs in Naju as genuine calls from God for us to repent our sins and reform our lives, there still are many including some clergy who do not adequately recognize the Blessed Mother's essential role in the Lord's work of human redemption, do not appreciate the true meaning of the Eucharistic miracles, and do not want to see Naju become officially approved.  However, we are more hopeful than ever because of the above-mentioned scientists?efforts and also because of the Holy Father's deep interest in Naju and his wish that the graces in Naju will be instrumental in revitalizing the faith in the hearts of many (For this statement, we especially rely on the testimony by Bishop Paul Kim in Korea who had an extensive conversation with the Holy Father during his ad limina visit in March 2000).  It seems so necessary that we continue to pray for the conversion of those who still oppose or are skeptical about Naju and also for an early approval of Naju.  At the same time, we need to be patient while waiting for the Church decision, as important matters in the Church are almost always handled slowly and meticulously for the sake of prudence and certainty.  In the mean time, we need to use our time productively by diligently sharing the important information with other people.

On September 8, the Blessed Mother's birthday, the visiting scientist met Professor Jung Bin Lee at Seoul National University.  Prof. Lee, also a medical doctor, is the top authority in Korea in the field of forensic medicine.  He is not a Catholic, but has tested blood samples from Naju for the past several years.  Professor Lee was somewhat reluctant at the beginning, but, as he continued his investigation and saw that the same results were being confirmed again and again by additional tests, he has become more seriously interested.

Professor Lee and his team tested more than ten blood-stained rocks from the Blessed Mother's mountain in Naju one after another.  He says that each sample was tested at least five times, making the total number of tests more than fifty.  He issued a statement testifying that the blood stains on all these rocks except two were male human blood and that every test on them showed an identical DNA structure and blood-type, which was AB.  This blood type of AB for Our Lord confirms the finding at Lanciano, where a Eucharistic miracle occurred about thirteen hundred years ago and a scientific test was done in the early 1970s.

Blood stains on the other two sample rocks were found to be female human blood with identical DNA structures and blood type, which was BO.  This probably was the first time ever in history that the Blessed Mother's blood type was determined genetically.

In addition to the more than ten blood-stained rocks, Professor Lee also tested a piece of blood-stained gauze from Naju.  On July 2, 1995, there was a Eucharistic miracle in the Chapel in Naju.  Fr. Francis Su from Malaysia dipped his finger in the blood on Julia's tongue and wiped it with a piece of gauze.  Professor Lee said that the findings from this sample were identical to those on the male blood samples on the rocks.  This means that the owner of the blood collected during the Eucharistic miracle in Naju eight years ago is the same as the owner of the male blood collected on the Blessed Mother's mountain in November 2001, January 2002 and August 2002.  This connection is of special significance.

The finding of the female blood from some rocks is consistent with the Blessed Mother's message that Julia received on January 18, 2002:  I am listening to the sounds of fervent prayers that you offer up on the Way of the Cross, and am walking with you, shedding tears of blood at the side of My Son Jesus, Who is shedding blood and is with you.  The female blood that Dr. Lee found must be the Blessed Mother's tears of blood that she shed as she was following Jesus Who was carrying the heavy Cross, shedding blood from His wounds for the purpose of saving us.

There is one question regarding the blood types of Our Lord (AB) and Our Lady (BO).  Since Jesus was conceived in the Blessed Mother's womb by the power of the Holy Spirit and the Blessed Mother's blood type is BO, where did the A gene in Our Lord's blood come from?  There cannot be any scientific answer to this question.  God the Son's Incarnation was a supernatural event that transcended the natural limits.  A possible theological explanation is that the Holy Spirit, Who does not have a physical body or genes, chose the A gene specifically for the Baby Jesus and gave it to Him.  This cannot be difficult at all to the Almighty God Who created the universe out of nothing.  Jesus is both God and Man.

To us personally and individually, scientific proofs are not necessary to believe and accept the words and signs from the Lord.  However, for the official recognition by the Church, the scientific testing and confirmation are necessary.  In Lourdes, about one hundred out of the thousands and thousands of miraculous healings passed scientific tests and were officially recognized by the Church.  In the beatification and canonization processes also, scientific confirmation of miracles is necessary.

Throughout the Church history, the Blessed Mother has brought messages and signs to many places to help the Lord's work of human salvation, but there has been no place quite the same as Naju where powerful and comprehensive messages as well as numerous major miraculous signs have been given.  This is a strong indication that the messages and signs in Naju are of grave importance and also that our responsibility toward these messages and signs is also grave.  The future of the world is not up to human wishes or control but depends on God's Will.  It also depends on whether we faithfully follow God's Will, obey His Commandments, and, especially, humbly seek the intercession by the Blessed Mother who constantly prays for the conversion of her poor and unrepentant children on earth.  Some say that we are not obligated to accept the special revelations such as messages and miracles.  But none of us will be free from the consequences of whether or not we faithfully accept and act upon the messages and signs from God, as was obvious in the times of Noah, of Sodom and Gomorrah, and of Jonah.  An important task has been given to us living in this particular segment of human history to bring more people to a true understanding of God's words and works in Naju so that they may begin living a new life practicing them with sincere repentance and devotion and receive God's eternal blessing as citizens of His Kingdom.

Sang M. Lee
Mary's Touch By Mail

Can we safely ignore special revelations?

Some say that we need not believe special revelations (like those in Lourdes, Fatima, Akita, Naju and elsewhere), because they are not new teachings as those revealed during Our Lord's earthly life.  Such remarks are misleading, because the purpose of special revelations has never been to give us new teachings but to prod us to become more faithful to God's teachings already revealed.  God's revelations of all the teachings necessary for our salvation were completed in the times of Christ's earthly life and His Apostles.  However, God never ceases to send us His warnings, encouragements, consolations, guidance, and assistance not only to individuals for their sanctification but also to the whole Church for revitalization of the Faith and purification from heresies and moral laxity.  

Thus, if one chooses to disregard special revelations, he would be in danger of failing to know and follow God's Will and thus of offending Him.  If someone refuses to accept a gift, his rejection may be more of the person who sent the gift than of the gift itself.  Those who laughed at God's warning through Noah perished when the Great Deluge came.  On the other hand, the king and citizens of Nineveh who listened to God's warning through Jonah and repented of their sins were spared a major chastisement from God.  Therefore, the relevant question is whether certain messages and signs are truly from God or not.  If they are, we have a serious obligation to accept them and act upon them.  

Also consider these facts:  Naju has already been recognized by the Holy Father and several bishops who personally witnessed miracles:

The Holy Father:   Eucharistic miracle in his private chapel in the Vatican on October 31, 1995;

Bishop Daniel Chi:   Tears and tears on blood on Our Lady's statue in Naju on January 20, 1990;

Archbishop Giovanni Bulaitis, the Apostolic Pro-Nuncio in Korea:   Descent of the Sacred Hosts in the Chapel in Naju on November 24, 1994;

Bishop Roman Danylak:   Eucharistic miracle during an outdoor Mass near Naju on September 22, 1995;

Bishop Dominic Su:   Eucharistic miracle in Sibu, Malaysia, on September 17, 1996;

Bishop Paul Kim:   Descent of the Eucharist in the Chapel in Naju on June 12, 1997;

A bishop from Rome:   Descent of the Eucharist in the Chapel in Naju on July 13, 1997.

Despite these facts, the modernist priests in Korea, who distort Catholic teachings and are defiant to the Holy Father, have so far succeeded in persuading their bishop in Kwangju, Korea to declare negatively on Naju.  This is the Blessed Mother's spiritual war against the devil.  All the faithful are called to fight on the Blessed Mother's side with their prayers and sacrifices.

Update on Naju ?January 30, 2003

1.  Il Segno, a reputable Catholic monthly magazine in Italy, reported in its January 2003 issue on the miraculous descents of Our Lord's Precious Blood in Naju, witnessed by Bishop Dominic Su from Malaysia and other pilgrims on August 15, 2002.  Our recent video: Who Will Sew Up My Torn Heart? also describes the same miracles.  Naju has been gaining an increasing recognition in Italy since a few years ago when the Vatican permitted public dissemination of the information about the Eucharistic miracle through Julia witnessed by the Holy Father on October 31, 1995. 

2.  Mrs. Cecilia Pohl of Wuppertal, Germany, who translated the Naju messages into German, informs us that Bishop Roman Danylak, who now resides in Rome, will travel to Germany to speak in several cities in April of this year.  His main topic will be Naju ?especially, the Eucharistic miracle that he personally witnessed in Naju on September 22, 1995.   Cecilia also says that the Naju video in German is being translated into French, Portuguese and English.

Letter from Bishop Roman Danylak to Mrs. C?ilia Pohl in Germany

November 16, 2001

Dear Madame Pohl,

I thank you for your kind letter of concern with the way events are unfolding around the messages and miraculous signs from Our Lord and Our Lady through Julia Kim. I have been away from Rome these past seven months. I had returned to Canada for medical reasons, and it is only last Sunday that I returned to the Eternal City.

Your concerns are shared by many in the Catholic Church, first those in their native Korea, and around the entire globe from the Far East and through the Americas. We know the reasons for this, the progressive liberal attitude of the younger Korean clergy that are dictating church policy to their bishops. This is a crisis that is pervading the entire Catholic Church, and not only the issues of Julia Kim and other visionaries, but addresses the issues of our Catholic Faith and the Christian life, especially the life of the family and the education of children. The crisis began during Vatican Council II, and infected all the ranks of society; especially in the technologically advanced countries of Western Europe, the Americas and the Far East. It is taking on frightening proportions. Our Lord forewarned us of this in the Gospel. Who knows when the Son of Man returns, will he still find faith? The faith is being rejected even by those who continue to call themselves Catholic.

This is why Our Lord is now entering into the affairs of men. An awesome sign is the disaster of September 11. As the Lord admonished through some of His messengers: this is the beginning of the chastisement of the world for the sins of abortion and the many others against life. Jesus did not blow up the towers. He is a God of life, not of death. And at the very beginning God gave us His commandment “Do not kill.?But as we learn from the Old Testament and from history, He is present in the affairs of men, and uses even the folly of men to chastise and purify.

The Holy Father and the Vatican are very much aware of the world situation in the Catholic Church; and the Holy Father knew of the miracle with Julia Kim of which he himself was a witness, even though the Vatican and the Holy Father dissimulated about their knowledge of the Eucharistic miracle for several years.

As Mary's Touch informs us, the Holy Father addressed the issue of the Naju miracles directly with Korean bishops in March 2001 during their quinquennial visit to Rome? The latest now is that he and Cardinal Ratzinger are becoming more directly involved in this issue, for they realize its importance as a voice of Heaven. The new archbishop of Kwangju is continuing to submit to the pressures of his priests. It appears that the Vatican will now take a more direct stance.

Secondly, in the past few months knowledge of these miracles has become publicly acclaimed in Rome and Italy, and also in Mexico and Guadalupe. And in Canada and the U.S.A.there is a lively interest growing, notwithstanding the reticence of the local bishops. No one can continue to hide or to dissimulate about the voice of Heaven. There is no need for you to organize intervention with the Holy See, because it is fully appraised of the situation, and is now beginning to act.

What we must continue to do is to make these miracles and messages, given through Julia, more known throughout the world. You can now speak more boldly of it, because the Holy Father has finally acknowledged the miracles. And more importantly we must firmly believe that heaven is involved and will not allow even priests and bishops to frustrate the work of our Lord and the Blessed Mother.

Please accept my sincerest thanks for your devotion to the truth about Naju and its miracles and messages.

I remain

Respectfully yours in the Lord and the Blessed Mother

?Roman Danylak

New Spanish edition of Messages of Love distributed at the conference of bishops and priests in Monterrey, Mexico

During the Conference of about 55 Bishops and more than 1,000 priests from all over Latin America, the new Spanish edition of the Naju message book, titled Mensajes de Amor, was presented to all the Bishops in attendance.

The distribution of the book during the Conference was personally carried out by Bishop Jorge Lozano Zafra of Colombia. He was assured by Cardinal Fran is Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan from the Vatican of the Holy See's knowledge and support of the supernatural events in Naju, Korea.

Cardinal Adolfo Antonio Suarez Rivera of the Archdiocese of Monterrey, who hosted the Conference, had been planning to invite Julia Kim to speak at the Conference, but Julia decided not to make the trip in the spirit of obedience to her own Bishop of Kwangju.

The new Spanish message book is also available in the United States through Mary's Touch By Mail.

From left: Cardinal Adolfo Antonio Suarez Rivera of Monterrey, Mexico; Bishop Jorge Lozano Zafra from Colombia;
Cardinal Fran?is Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan from the Vatican; Thelma De Hoyos; Macedonio De Hoyos (November 2001)

Macedonio De Hoyos, who helped the publication of the Spanish message book, presents the book to Bishop Zafra.

Bishop Jorge Lozano Zafra from Colombia (center) with Thelma and Macedonio De
Hoyos with a replica statue of Our Lady of Naju and the new Spanish message book

Bishop Zafra dedicates the message book to Julia

Update on Naju ?May 31, 2001

Earlier this month, some pilgrims from the United States and Germany visited Rome.  To their great surprise and joy, they saw a TV program in Rome covering Naju.  The date was May 19, Saturday.  The program included an interview with a priest from the Vatican.  This is what the pilgrims heard him say:

“We in the Church are very discreet, cautious and thorough on such matters.  In the case of Naju, the Holy Father himself has become a witness, and Julia, who has been receiving the messages and pains, has been leading a simple and humble life.

The Eucharistic miracles through Julia are becoming known in Italy ?May 31, 2001

A report by Judy Navarrete, Los Angeles, California

I am pleased to report on an experience I had while on vacation in Italy this May with a few pilgrims.

Part of our itinerary was to visit San Giovanni Rotondo and St. Michael's Cave.  A church has been built above St. Michael's Cave, and, within the church, there is a small exhibit room.  At this time there was an exhibit of all the approved Eucharistic miracles which have occurred in the Church over the centuries.  My joy and surprise was to see the Eucharistic miracle which occurred to Julia when she was visiting the Vatican.  There was a short explanation in Italian next to the pictures, and the tour guide explained what was stated.  The miracle initially had not been made public by the Vatican but now it approved that the miracle be shown.  The pictures showed that the Pope had witnessed the Eucharistic miracle and had given Julia his blessing.

This was not all.  On the TV in all of Italy a series on different miracles was going to be shown every Saturday.  The first of the series was the Eucharistic miracles of Naju.  A one-hour TV show was aired on Saturday, May 19, throughout Italy.  According to our tour guide this would not be aired if the Vatican had not given the approval since the Pope would be part of the documentary with the miracle at the Vatican of October 31, 1995.

Unfortunately our group was not in Italy on May 19, and was not able to see the documentary.  According to a friend of ours who came from Germany, a priest from the Vatican was interviewed in the TV show.  This is what they heard him say: “We in the Church are very discreet, cautious and thorough on such matters.  In the case of Naju, the Holy Father himself has become a witness, and Julia, who has been receiving the messages and pains, has been leading a simple and humble life.?